Heroes in Cantha? Tyria? - Guild Wars Forums

HR-Galaphile · Sep 24, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12

Not an easy question i know.

Once you buy nightfall... Will you be able to bring your heroes over to other continents?
I'm guessing that you will... Since so far there has been a ton of interaction between games.

But if you know otherwise please state and prove plz and ty.

The Pointless · Sep 24, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

It's likely, but I don't think anybody knows for definite to be honest...
You've probably noticed by now that the interface changes are for the client altogether, as opposed to just Nightfall, so I think it's likely.

jimmy_logic · Sep 24, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Don't think it will unless they give access to Tyrian and Cathan characters that only have P and F installed. I don't think it would be fair?

Manic Smile · Sep 24, 2006, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Someone posted in NF forum that Gaile said no but lets all bitch and hopefully this oversight will be fixed.

Swinging Fists · Sep 24, 2006, 07:53 AM // 07:53

Gaile Gray was asked this very question and she said she would check her email and ask, and get back to us tomorrow.

raca137 · Sep 24, 2006, 08:13 AM // 08:13

My college level smarts says........... In the near future, heros are only going to be based in nightfall. The time it would take to code factions and the Orginal campians, would require a ton of time and money. Maybe like 3-6 months later you might see heros in other campians when GW will become stale again.

And why would they right now???? they have a hot new product (nightfall) and the hero feature alone with convince more people to buy nightfall, because it is the only place to get heros. If they gave it to the other ones right now it would take away from there nightfall only hype and could lower there sells. They want everyone to be playing nightfall soon and not factions with heros.

Manic Smile · Sep 24, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Uh...how about they make it so you need Nightfall to unlock the feature but support it in the other two?

I think you missed a logic step in what we're suggsting.

And as the player base only gets spread thinner they will need this to alow players to play thorugh the entire GW world. Not really but it'll make it much easier for most.

The Pointless · Sep 24, 2006, 12:28 PM // 12:28

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Originally Posted by Manic Smile

Uh...how about they make it so you need Nightfall to unlock the feature but support it in the other two?

Yeah, sort of like the Material Storage, which requires Factions on your account, but once you get to Cantha and unlock it, your character has access to that upgrade in Tyria as well.

sykoone · Sep 24, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

I think it's a great idea. Take your Tyrian or Canthan to Elona, unlock the heroes for that character, then they can follow you everywhere. No more crappy pugs!

ischuros · Sep 24, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49

i wouldnt like it, and personally i really dont like the hereos. I liked the idea, but in the WPE, i p;ayed it through only with heroes/henches(when you need 8) and only once played with a guild member. Gw was supposed to be about co-operation and now it's boiling down to a single player game with some online tendencies. I will buy Noghtfall, i had great fun in Elona, but i wouldnt like to see heroes in otehr parts of the game world.

My 2 cents.

Swinging Fists · Sep 24, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by ischuros

i wouldnt like it, and personally i really dont like the hereos. I liked the idea, but in the WPE, i p;ayed it through only with heroes/henches(when you need 8) and only once played with a guild member. Gw was supposed to be about co-operation and now it's boiling down to a single player game with some online tendencies. I will buy Noghtfall, i had great fun in Elona, but i wouldnt like to see heroes in otehr parts of the game world.

My 2 cents.

Well, you will still have the choice to play with your guildies whether heroes are around or not, will you not ? How many times have we read Gaile Gray say something about player choice being good ? With heroes available, we have the choice to continue playing with our guildies or bring our heroes.

And yeah, raca137 completely missed the idea here.

Age · Sep 24, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

You mean you can't take your Prophecies char. into Nightfall I thought they were the heros?

The Pointless · Sep 24, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06

We are talking about the Hero system which involves the unlocking of story characters to fight in your party, Age.

NeHoMaR · Sep 24, 2006, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by HR-Galaphile

Not an easy question i know.

Yeah, the question is very easy indeed. The are not heros in outpost, you just select it from the party window wherever you are; Heros are just henchies; I don't see why not allow people with Nightfall to use heros everywhere.

Edit: Note you can command henchies in Tyria and Cantha at this moment, so maybe the answer is yes.

The Pointless · Sep 24, 2006, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Heroes are not just henchies. For a start, you can actually give them Res Sig, a skill foolishly omitted from many a henchman's build.

>Henchmen are idiots<

Carth` · Sep 24, 2006, 09:22 PM // 21:22

All henchmen have a res sig, except for the monk/rits, who have a reusable res. So you can guarantee henchmen have res, whereas I've been in so many PUGs where somebody didn't.

>PUGs are idiots<

gamecube187 · Sep 25, 2006, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic Smile

Uh...how about they make it so you need Nightfall to unlock the feature but support it in the other two?

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pointless

Yeah, sort of like the Material Storage, which requires Factions on your account, but once you get to Cantha and unlock it, your character has access to that upgrade in Tyria as well.

My thoughts exactly. I don't see why not. As more chapters come, there will be less and less people at the missions and outposts because we will be more spread out. With this, it will solve that problem(well mostly). Even if they don't make heros able to go to prophecies and cantha at first(I really hope they do), I'm pretty confident they will be able to go there eventually.

I just hope there is at least one hero for every proffession, including heros with primary rit, and primary assassin(of course you can only get them if you have factions linked to your account or somehting).

ramma77 · Sep 25, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15

i am quite sure talon silverwing has rebirth. hmmmmmmmm

i might have been on drugs.

henchies>Pugs
i played most of factions with henchies. and the odd few time i went with guildies or pugs it was an almighty mess and took ages.

Faer · Sep 25, 2006, 09:27 AM // 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramma77

i am quite sure talon silverwing has rebirth. hmmmmmmmm

i might have been on drugs.

henchies>Pugs
i played most of factions with henchies. and the odd few time i went with guildies or pugs it was an almighty mess and took ages.

I want what some of what you're smoking.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Talon_Silverwing

As to your statement about Henchies being greater than PUGs, I completely agree. Back before anyone saw the value of Assassins in PvE (which sadly very few do, even now), I took my original PvE Assassin/Monk through the Factions campaign with henchies, except for the rare occasion when I teamed up with a guildmate or friend. That's also how I know that every single mission in the Factions Campaign is indeed henchable.

On the original topic: while I don't personally see any major problems with allowing Nightfall players to drag their Hero players along with them to the previous, and possibly future, chapters, I can see how problems with this could eventually arise. I suppose it is a question that only the passing of time can answer.

Infinity^ · Sep 25, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Well, you can only take a max of 3 your own heros with you on a mission cant you? So having Heros in Tyria and Cantha excludes 'player cooporation' no more so than being able to have a full hench team.

Sep 24, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12	#1
HR-Galaphile Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: R/Mo	Heroes in Cantha? Tyria? Not an easy question i know. Once you buy nightfall... Will you be able to bring your heroes over to other continents? I'm guessing that you will... Since so far there has been a ton of interaction between games. But if you know otherwise please state and prove plz and ty.

Sep 24, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10	#7
Manic Smile Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Guild: ----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----	Uh...how about they make it so you need Nightfall to unlock the feature but support it in the other two? I think you missed a logic step in what we're suggsting. And as the player base only gets spread thinner they will need this to alow players to play thorugh the entire GW world. Not really but it'll make it much easier for most. Last edited by Manic Smile; Sep 24, 2006 at 09:12 AM // 09:12..

Sep 24, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17	#2
The Pointless Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in the UK Guild: Rage International [RAGE] Profession: W/Me	It's likely, but I don't think anybody knows for definite to be honest... You've probably noticed by now that the interface changes are for the client altogether, as opposed to just Nightfall, so I think it's likely.

Sep 24, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18	#3
jimmy_logic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: R/	Don't think it will unless they give access to Tyrian and Cathan characters that only have P and F installed. I don't think it would be fair?

Sep 24, 2006, 02:18 AM // 02:18	#4
Manic Smile Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Guild: ----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----	Someone posted in NF forum that Gaile said no but lets all bitch and hopefully this oversight will be fixed.

Sep 24, 2006, 07:53 AM // 07:53	#5
Swinging Fists Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Gaile Gray was asked this very question and she said she would check her email and ask, and get back to us tomorrow.

Sep 24, 2006, 08:13 AM // 08:13	#6
raca137 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: in my room Guild: Elite of Elites Profession: W/Mo	My college level smarts says........... In the near future, heros are only going to be based in nightfall. The time it would take to code factions and the Orginal campians, would require a ton of time and money. Maybe like 3-6 months later you might see heros in other campians when GW will become stale again. And why would they right now???? they have a hot new product (nightfall) and the hero feature alone with convince more people to buy nightfall, because it is the only place to get heros. If they gave it to the other ones right now it would take away from there nightfall only hype and could lower there sells. They want everyone to be playing nightfall soon and not factions with heros.

Sep 24, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43	#9
sykoone Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Mystical Chaos Profession: E/	I think it's a great idea. Take your Tyrian or Canthan to Elona, unlock the heroes for that character, then they can follow you everywhere. No more crappy pugs!

Sep 24, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49	#10
ischuros Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Profession: N/Me	i wouldnt like it, and personally i really dont like the hereos. I liked the idea, but in the WPE, i p;ayed it through only with heroes/henches(when you need 8) and only once played with a guild member. Gw was supposed to be about co-operation and now it's boiling down to a single player game with some online tendencies. I will buy Noghtfall, i had great fun in Elona, but i wouldnt like to see heroes in otehr parts of the game world. My 2 cents.

Sep 24, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56	#12
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	You mean you can't take your Prophecies char. into Nightfall I thought they were the heros?

Sep 24, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06	#13
The Pointless Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in the UK Guild: Rage International [RAGE] Profession: W/Me	We are talking about the Hero system which involves the unlocking of story characters to fight in your party, Age.

Sep 24, 2006, 09:07 PM // 21:07	#15
The Pointless Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in the UK Guild: Rage International [RAGE] Profession: W/Me	Heroes are not just henchies. For a start, you can actually give them Res Sig, a skill foolishly omitted from many a henchman's build. >Henchmen are idiots<

Sep 24, 2006, 09:22 PM // 21:22	#16
Carth` Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	All henchmen have a res sig, except for the monk/rits, who have a reusable res. So you can guarantee henchmen have res, whereas I've been in so many PUGs where somebody didn't. >PUGs are idiots<

Sep 25, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15	#18
ramma77 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: South Shields, England Guild: The Psycho Titans Profession: R/	i am quite sure talon silverwing has rebirth. hmmmmmmmm i might have been on drugs. henchies>Pugs i played most of factions with henchies. and the odd few time i went with guildies or pugs it was an almighty mess and took ages.

Sep 25, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37	#20
Infinity^ Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: House Behelit Profession: R/	Well, you can only take a max of 3 your own heros with you on a mission cant you? So having Heros in Tyria and Cantha excludes 'player cooporation' no more so than being able to have a full hench team.